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Article 12.6 of the FIDE Laws of Chess state "It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever." However what constitutes a distraction isn't stated in the rules, so this is why we have arbiters.
My first thought (more as an organiser than an arbiter) is the need to balance the needs of the many with the needs of a few. If no one minds not using water bottles at the board, then I guess there is no real problem with the rule. If however it ends up that you lose 3 or 4 players from the club/tournament just to keep one player there, then I think it is a net loss for the club and the rule should be dropped. If I was looking for middle ground I would simply allow water bottles etc at the table, but players could only use them during their move, so as not to disturb their opponent on their opponents thinking time.
Geurt Gijssen also discusses distracting an opponent it in his latest
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Yes, you make a valid point from the organiser's perspective. However, what would you as an arbiter do in a situation during a game in progress should one player complain that he is being distracted by his opponent drinking from a water bottle? The point to make clear here is that we are assuming that the opponent in these cases is not actually distracting objectively, but it is the fact that the complainant has an unreasonable problem with this. i.e. it is the complainant's subjective problem. This is why I gave the flippant example that let's say, I were to complain that players who have their elbows on the table really really distract me; obviously, this is an unreasonable problem / complaint; but if it still genuinely registers as a distraction to me personally because of my own personal phobia , then should arbiters pander to my every whim? A corollary point here also is the fact that such (unreasonable) complaining during the game itself may well be a distraction to the opponent who was using the water bottle etc. PotentialIy, players could be quite thrown off by such complaints being upheld against them, if they were not doing anything which was objectively-unreasonable themselves. Obviously, this question of objectivity goes beyond water-bottles; it applies to any subjectively-based complaints. Thanks!
P.S. I suppose, the issue is whether FIDE regards a "distraction" as any act which the complainant feels is distracting (subjective) , OR is it any act which the arbiter would regard to be distracting (objective)? In the former case, it is purely the complainant's decision. In the latter case, it is purely the arbiter's decision i.e. the complainant might genuinely feel distracted, but would not get the complaint upheld if it is not an act which the arbiter thinks other players would ordinarily be distracted by.
The absence of any definition of 'distract' leaves the decision in the hands of the arbiter, as it should be (in my opinion). The Laws of Chess cannot cover every conceivable situation and so the judgment of the arbiter is required.
The issue of distracting an opponent was the cause of the big problems in the 1977 Korchnoi - Spassky Candidates Match. Spassky claimed that Korchnoi was doing something to distract him, although what it actually was wasn't clear (Indeed Spassky didn't even elaborate on this when I asked him personally about it a number of years later). As the arbiter took no action against Korchnoi (as there was nothing in the claim), Spassky attempted to remedy the problem by refusing to sit at the board when it was his move, instead analysing off the demonstration boards from the side of the stage and only returning to the board to move. This in turn led to complaints from Korchnoi and whole match almost collapsed due to the disagreements.
If I was confronted with either the situation you've described (a player feels they are being distracted even if you do not see it yourself) or the Spassky case I would firstly conclude that anything less than 100% agreement with the complainant would only lead to more complaints and consequently rule that as I can't see the distraction, their complaint is rejected and suggest they concentrate on their game rather than their opponent.
Thanks Shaun, that clears it up: it is the latter case in my P.S. above which applies i.e. it is the objective opinion of the arbiter, not the subjective feelings of the complainant.
There was a water bottle incident in a tournament at Launceston a few years ago. I wasn't there, but it was over a one-litre water bottle placed on the table. The solution implemented was that a side-table was made available for the owner of the bottle to rest it on so that he could access it without having to bend down to the floor, but also without distracting his opponent.
I noticed on the Mtel Masters streaming that Carlsen has a very high thin drink bottle filled with what looks like orange juice or maybe orange cordial, which he puts on top of the table.
LOL.....I would be minded to regard a tall thin bottle (or any bottle) being placed next to the board as being potentially a distraction. However, in the case I detailed before, the player was complaining about the USE of water bottles....obviously a personal bugbear of his. Hence my question to Shaun, which he has answered, as to whether it is the complainant's subjective feelings or the arbiter's objective opinion which matters. Clearly, the use of water bottles per se is not generally / objectively regarded as being a distraction by or to any reasonable person , since I have noticed many top GM players using drink bottles at the board. Indeed, my son recently played a GM who was drinking straight from a 2.5L Pepsi bottle during the game!
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